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Starwars Episode III [May. 20th, 2005|01:27 pm]
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[tyrven]
Heather and I went and saw Starwars last night. I had heard from multiple people that it was better than Jedi. I disagree.

There are a number of problems I have with the new series, which this one maintains.

  1. The visuals are overly polished and overdone. This is especially true of animated characters. In the new movie it's the robot lord who would feel more at home in a cartoon. This is added to by how saturated and colorful a lot of it is; the original series was dark and grimy whereas everything in this series looks like a toy.
  2. The overall tone is downright slapstick at parts. The original series had plenty of humor; the new series feels comic, though: instead of being character driven humor it's circumstantial. Harrison Ford was able to deliver one liners and have it feel inline with his character; while contrived at parts, though, his circumstances were within a reasonable variance of belief given the overall tone of the films.
  3. The dialog is horrendous. Of course the dialog wasn't great in the first series, either, but they weren't even attempting to deal with complex emotional issues like love.
  4. The character transitions seem forced. In the original series the inner conflicts and growth seemed more natural and easy to relate to; in the current series they are very obvious.
Specific things that bothered me:
  • When Palpatine emerges as the emperor he looks and sounds ridiculous.
  • They build up a somewhat believable conflict within Anakin regarding the light/dark side and start to give him some depth, even counter to his character in Episode II. Once he becomes Darth Vader, though, he is suddenly 100% evil. There is no transition; his previous conflict and doubts become polarized and it feels very abrubt.
  • R2D2 (who feels forced into the series without any real relationship to the original series) is a lot more agile and, in general, has a lot more capabilities than the old R2. Not only does this add to the comic feel of the film but it also
There were a number of scenes in the movie where everyone started laughing, in unison, because the dialog was so awkward and forced.

That said, I thought that the last third of this film was well done and maintained a similar feel as the original series. It is better than the previous two movies. I don't think it's better than any of the original three, though.

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[User Picture]From: screed
2005-05-20 09:56 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the spoilers, asshole! At least you didn't ruin it by telling whether or not Darth Vader dies!!
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[User Picture]From: tyrven
2005-05-20 10:25 pm (UTC)
I figured I was safe as long as I didn't give away the twist that results from the sexual tension between Palpatine and Padmé.
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[User Picture]From: screed
2005-05-20 10:48 pm (UTC)
Star Wars 3.a: The Grudge Fucking.
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[User Picture]From: veovix
2005-05-20 11:52 pm (UTC)
R2D2 (who feels forced into the series without any real relationship to the original series) is a lot more agile and, in general, has a lot more capabilities than the old R2. Not only does this add to the comic feel of the film but it also ... it also?


In general I agree with your opinions. My one line review is "The film was pretty good when they weren't speaking." The character arcs are unbelievable in general but Darth Vader's story especially seemed stilted and forced. I see on an analytical level he *might've* slightly considered a path of evil but the actual story shown didnt support his choices. Skywalker came across as an impatient whiney teenager with little self-awareness rather then the deeply conflicted and highly-trained jedi he was supposed to be.
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[User Picture]From: karinkarinkarin
2005-05-23 11:30 pm (UTC)
and a very good one line review that is.
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[User Picture]From: vulnerary
2005-05-21 04:13 am (UTC)
i liked it. but i couldn't tell if that was because the movie was good or because it finished the story. i don't think it would stand on it's own and now that it's been a couple days; nothing that memorable really stands out to me.
also, i felt this movie severely lacked in the "spoiler" department. i know they were working with limits as far as what the audience already knows, i just really expected there to be huge shocking moments or something.
over all i feel a sense of relief for finally seeing the whole thing, but a deeper sense of disappointment that such a monumental part of our generation's pop-culture wasn't *spectacular*, like it should have been.
but i still liked it. i don't mind the fact that some movies will just never be like they used to. coulda been worse.
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[User Picture]From: veroism
2005-05-21 08:47 am (UTC)
I liked it, but I think Lucas took a lot of cheap shots to get the audience to cry (killing off children?!? come on)
Being a fan of the classic trilogy, I was ridiculously annoyed at the fact that he can't seem to remember a minor story arc from ROTJ (Leia remembers her mother... this is not possible if she dies in childbirth)
I can't get over the fact that the entire film seems to have taken place within a week... and that Padme gets more and more pregnant during that week...
Unfortunately, because I'm an addict of sorts, I'll probably see it again.
*sigh*
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[User Picture]From: tyrven
2005-05-21 06:55 pm (UTC)
The killing off children was also what completely killed the tension in Anakin. For a while you could see this tension where he was doubting the Jedi's motives, trying to do what was best for the republic, seeing that the dark side was necessary for balance, realizing that perhaps the Sith weren't evil just a different power and seeing them as a necessity to save his wife. So then he saves Palpatine and exclaims "Oh, what have I done!?" followed immediately by slaying children? That doesn't support the conflict he was feeling or the rationalizations that he bought into.

re: Remembering her mother: That bothered me as well. That's a pretty major flaw.
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[User Picture]From: karinkarinkarin
2005-05-23 11:32 pm (UTC)
the mother bit bothered me as well, but then again... it might not be her biological mother that she remembers. it could be whatsherface organa (wife of senator organa) who adopts her that leia remembers. but. I stopped caring when my thought process got this far. because it's just a movie.
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[User Picture]From: fritz_da_kat
2005-05-22 06:08 am (UTC)
I was going to write a review but I think I won't bother...

How, in the name of the almighty midichlorians, can the biggest film franchise of all times get such bad writing for the movie that should be the crux of the whole saga? Any, really, any of the network tv shows have better writing than this. Thousands of writers would have sold their souls to get their lines read by Darth Vader...

Too much light saber fighting, too much martial-arts versatility. Very different from the father-son fight in Empire strikes back - dark scenes, a few clashes, tension, uncertainty, shadows.

I thought the only scene that had a little drop of drama in it was when Palpatine reveals to Anakin that he might be able to create life using the dark side of the force.

And of course, Yoda was as always, awesome...
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